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name calling or the wildness of his charges, but through all the deals he broke the law that rules me, you and donald j. trump. that's "hardball" for now. "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight -- >> are there any russians here tonight? >> the counter offensive begins. >> they're trying to cheat you out of the leadership you want with a fake story. >> tonight, new details on the mueller investigation. as the white house attacks leakers and the president and his allies undercut the special prosecutor. >> i think mr. mueller is hurting his reputation. >> maxine waters. >> we would certainly object. >> what we know about investigators following trump's money and about those transcripts lt. >> what is this thing with
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boats? >> what we're learning from president trump and his private talks with world leaders. >> who will pay for the wall? >>" all in" begins right now. >> the tonight the president and his allies are mounting a multifaceted counter attack, suggesting it doesn't matter what mueller finds because his investigation is a fundamentally ill legitimate attempt by the points to overturn the will of the people. >> they can't beat us at the voting booths. so they're trying to cheat you out of the future and the future that you want. they're trying to cheat you out of the leadership you want. with a fake story that is demeaning to all of us. >> that they are out to destroy
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the president in part through leaks in the media. >> all of this is the deep state. the deep state real. it is a massive bureaucracy and they see donald trump as their mortal enemy. >> amid the daily drip of damaging news, the president has been pressing his attorney general, jeff sessions, the same jeff sessions the president has accused of recusing himself to go after the leakers. and today he did just. that saying they had tripled the number of investigations involving illegal disclosures. >> we will investigate and seek the bring countries to justice. we will not allow rogue, anonymous sources with security cleenlss to sell out our president. >> notably, he is also talking about going after hillary clinton. a group republicans last week called for a second special counsel to investigate james comey and loretta lynch and
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calling for a separate grand jury to investigate trump as well. last night he said he's not the one with the real russia problem. >> what the prosecutors should be looking at hillary clinton's 33,000 deleted e-mails. and they should be looking at the paid russian speeches. and the owned russian companies. or let them look at the uranium she sold that is now in the hands of very angry russians. >> that last part is not true. she didn't sell any uranium. also under attack is mueller, a republican who enjoys a sister-in-law reputation among republicans and who is appointed to be fbi director by george w. bush. despite that, they are casting the investigation as hopelessly compromised. >> mueller has put together a
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democratic hit squad that has donated tens of thousands to let's see, democrats, including hillary clinton and barack obama. >> the wikileaks julian assange is calling him a dirty cop. last night one fox news guest even argued against the concept of grand juries which are enshrined in the constitution. >> there's only one other country in the world that employs a grand jury, it is liberia. there's a reason why. everybody now realize that's grand juries are an undemocratic farce. >> the heart of the argument is this. the president is the heart of the investigation, an attack be just on the president but the people who put him into office who should rise up. >> if they end up with an
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indictment against a family member just to, you know, to get at donald trump when they couldn't get at him, there will be a real uprising in this country. >> joining me now, maxine waters. >> delighted to be here with you. >> ken starr said something. a lot of democrats laughed at that. he went to a land deal called whitewater and then on monica lewinsky. isn't it true what he is saying in some almosts, that it can get out of hand if a prosecutor starts looking and ends up looking at something they didn't go after? >> we all know that he is looking at the possibility of collusion and obstruction of justice. when you're doing those kinds of investigations, it is going to take you into some other areas and those areas could be very problematic. they could be criminal. and so if that happens, then he
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has a responsibility to follow up on it. it is not a fishing expedition. >> wasn't that the argument they made? you started on one thing and now we're here from monica lewinsky because you couldn't get them on whitewater and on vince foster. if they end up with something and say past business practices. >> the fact is, if given all this information that something is wrong, that the president of the united states is out of bounds, he's committed certain crimes, they can make the decision to impeach. the final analysis is with us to determine wrorng the information we're receiving, whether it is dealing with obstruction of
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justice. we have a responsibility to make a determination about whether or not he should be impeached. >> what do you think about the idea that mueller is conflicted some that people he's hired are giving anyone democrats? do you think he's compromised? >> no. he has a sterling reputation. not only does he have a sterling reputation, of democrats and republicans believe if anyone would do this investigation, it's him. not only has he done good work in the past. >> i do. we think he is staffing up the right way to. bring the truth to all that's being looked at. >> are you confident that reputation will hold? one of the things we've seen, the president is able to convince a sizable chunk of the country and people in the party to zig if the other side says zag. do you think if it comes to a showdown with mueller, that
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reputation holds? >> mueller is going to win. >> you seal very confident. >> i do. but i've made predictions in the past and i've talked about some relationships in the past. and i have talked about my suspicions in the past. and i want to tell you drip by drip, people are finding out that there's more to this than maybe some people thought. and of course, there's a lot of smoke. and even now people are believing there's some fire. so i think that not only is mueller the correct one. no. he is not conflicted. they'll put their team together and they'll roll out every day with a new accusation but it won't hold. >> some republicans on the other side of the aisle, thwhat wouldt mean constitutionally if
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conscience or the department of justice were to take that step at the president's command? >> well, it won't happen to begin with. they've investigated hillary clinton and they've investigated hillary clinton. they've investigated hillary clinton and she has shown that she can stand there, sit there, and give them the information, answer all the questions, debunk all their theories, and she's won. so enough is enough. and they can't go there. >> alan dershowitz, he's emerged as a defender. he had something, this is alan dershowi dershowitz. >> it gives the prosecutor the power to indict in the district of columbia which is a district that's heavily democratic and a
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jury pool very unfavorable to the trump administration. so it gives the prosecutor a tremendous tactical advantage. >> he went to talk about the ethnic and racial mix. >> i think absolutely unfair. he is saying, all those black people are there and they don't like trump. so he won't get a fair trial. so they should take it out of that jurisdiction. it shouldn't be there to begin with. i don't like that. i'm surprise that had alan dershowitz is talking like that. we will push back against that. it is nice to have you here in person. joining me now, from the daily beast, you had sources in the white house. it becomes choerer and clearer.
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there is a very real thing happening with serious subpoena power. >> absolutely. but with regard to mueller and his legal team is what senior aides are worried about, what the president of the united states might do in the coming days and weeks as he reads more coverage regarding, and watches more on cable news, regarding what's going on. this has to do with his various flirtations with does her to sacking of robert mueller as he has sort of flirted with in a "new york times" article, or does he set off a barrage of angry tweets about this that could easily be legally or politically complicated. >> so you made a great point.
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>> we think the russian defende defenders, the president watches a lot of cable news and a lot of fox news. he sits there and watches they will attack mule. >> trump has proven himself to be something of a specialist in delivering self-inflicted blows and i think he watches cable television on, it's never more than a little bit removed from his hourly or five-minute consciousness. and he sees vocal defenders on cable news. and also people attack his enemies. that was at the root of his attacks. and the real danger to the president right now is what he himself may do.
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i think the latest actions, the news of the impanelling of a grand jury show that bob smooul deathly serious. what is not clear is how close this may come to the president himself. if he could impose some discipline on himself, he may not be touched by this at all. that's not clear yet. >> so is it your understanding there are folks in the white house trying to make sure he doesn't take steps like the ones you floated, so that he doesn't incur further legal jeopardy? >> yes. most importantly, first and foremost, they have been advising the president rather gently, but diligently, i should say, over the last few weeks and months, that ordering the firing of robert mueller would be a horrible course of action. in fact, there are bad words that i can't use on the air what they used to describe what would happen that would be politically catastrophic if he were to do so. but back to your earlier point about how angry the president gets when he sees this on loop,
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in the news, on tv, in terms of russia and trump-related news, politico and my publication, daily beast. the president will literally yell at his tv screen when he sees more and more russia-related news that he is displeased by. this is something that i don't think can be understated, how furious and aggrieved he can feel when this comes across his, whether it is his twitter feed or his cable news box. do you feel white house is taking a turn in how they approach he this? i feel like i've seen that narrative take shape in a more aggressive fashion. do you feel the same way? >> you know, the rally in west virginia was really interesting this week. in a certain way, i think trump
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has been hammering home on the same point whether it is-related to the russia investigation or not, that the system rigged. and he is coming back to it on this russia investigation. where he is telling his supporters that they're out to find something. has the fake story and they're going to find something. they're trying to ill legitimize his victory. to steal it from him the president and his supporters. even if it were shown or demonstrated clearly that trump was guilty of this, i don't think it would make any difference. what trump has suggested over and over again, however bad he is, he is a preferable alternative on hillary clinton. and i think many of his supporters believe that. and are simply immune to whatever might come out here. that's why you hear the raucous
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cheers. most people do believe russia interfered in the election. and yet i think a lot of them still find him preferable to the eternal i have the. people may change their vus about the facts rather than their views. next, the vast legal team appears to be crossing the president's systelf-imposed red line. that's cool. looking fabulous in my little black dress? that's cool. getting the body you want without surgery, needles, or downtime? that's coolsculpting. coolsculpting is the only fda-cleared non-invasive treatment that targets and freezes away stubborn fat cells. visit coolsculpting.com today and register for a chance to
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there's supposed to be, to look at a real estate deal from ten years ago, which is when some of these reports came out, it would be way outside the
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scope of the mandate. we would certainly object to that. >> ever since trump agreed that robert mueller's investigation would cross a red line if they looked at his finances, they have said that there's a limited purview in the investigation. but they gave mueller more authori authority. any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation and any other matters within the scope of the law. there have in fact been headlines for two weeks that mueller's investigation is looking into the president's financial ties. and just as republicans appear ready to stop president trump from firing or directing anyone to fire special counsel mueller, there are now republicans willing to dismiss any possibility of the president drawing a red line. >> that i believe the special counsel has a very broad
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mandate. and she follow the leads wherever they may be. the president can't set red lines for bob mueller. >> well said. >> joining me now, pulitzer prize winner, author of the making of donald trump. someone who spent a lot of time reporting on donald trump. my question is, do you think he has reason to fear mueller on that score? >> oh, i think he has tremendous reason to fear mueller on that score. remember that donald's principal bank is deutsch bank which has been fined for money laundering. there's a letter saying that he authorized a tax fraud. and donald owned 18% of the profits, ended up in an icelandic bank. he has a lot to worry about. >> let me ask you, this is
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someone in public life for many years and he's been the subject of a lot of attention. and he has run into problems with civil suits, he's been fined. but he never has had any criminal convictions. never been indicted over financial regularities. and there's something to be said for living in the spotlight that long and not bringing down the law upon you. >> well, yes. i once had the mob's number to a hit imagine in the western u.s. in my home tell me about the people he killed chflt the fbi and local cops backed up his story. and harry was very proud of the fact that he had never been arrested for his crimes. many people who cheat and he swindle and steal as donald has done have never been arrested. that's not a measure of anything. >> what do you think about the idea of trip wires as they go along? it seeps will to me that it is going to be the case, they're going to start to look at the finances and start pulling on
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threads. and they're very complex finances, whether their all above board or not. that seems to be very established. they're very complex. >> yes. but the things that they'll be able to are transfers of money. it is mostly the irs who does this. verdict very good at finding it. and once they uncover a few keys and get some people to cooperate, if there were illicit flows of money and money laundering and what amounted to payoffs, they will final those things and remember they'll start with people on the outer edge. perhaps then some with prosecution, and leverage them as they move toward the center. and donald is very worried that finally he has an investigation he can't compromise or run out the clock on, as he has done with numerous previous
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investigations of himself. >> that strikes me as important. you've reported other times he's had investigationed over him and the steps he's taken to make sure they didn't get to him. and it does appear, do you feel like we're watching history repeat itself? >> here, i don't think he's going to be able to do what he's done in the past. either run out the clock, compromise the investigation, and go rat out other people. in this case he has a team of incredible people going after him. those 16 laws, they didn't leave their million-dollar jobs for a lark. they were persuaded by mueller. this is important historic work and you noted to be on the team. >> all right. thank you for your time. >> thank you. coming up, an incredible look into how president trump operates when he thinks nobody is listening. more fallout from the transcripts and what the
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so much of what we know has come from lesion in the press. michael flynn was forced out in february for failing to come clean. in the early days of the will administration, after learning flynn had been lying about the conversations, then the acting attorney general alerted the white house counsel multiple times, going through proper channels to warn the administration. one of the top national officials might be vulnerable to russian blackmail and nothing happened. flynn remained on the job.
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it was not until weeks later after anonymous officials leaked to the "washington post" that flynn had in fact talked about sanctions, something flynn had denied the vice president had not told the truth about, the president finally asked his national security adviser to resign. the leaks are the real problem and attorney general jeff sessions is at least partly to blame. last week, -- the attorney general responded announcing a crackdown leaks which could include severe repercussions for the journalists. >> since january, the number has more than tripled the number of active leak investigations. the fbi has devoted resources to leak sources and created a new counter intelligence unit the manage these cases. one of the things we are doing is reviewing policies affecting
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we are cracking down strongly on sanctuary cities, and in order to stop the drugs, gangs, and traffickers, we are building a wall on the southern border. >> watching donald trump perform before a crowd in a campaign style in west virginia, you can't help but wonder what he is like behind closed doors as he carries out his presidential duties. is he the same guy who shows up to international summits and situation room briefings? we now have at least a partial answer to that question because have leaked trans cynthcripts oe calls with the president of mexico. in many ways, it reveals the same donald trump we've come to know. braggadocious, and uncomprehending about even the basic points of policy. the president showed another side. displaying a striking cynic i about the promises he made to
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his voters and he that he was on the con. he said the fact is we are both in a little bit of a political bind because i have to have mexico pay for the wall. i have to. they're going to say who will pay for the wall? and we should both say we will boring it out. we'll work it out in the formula. the wall was the president's most central campaign pledge but listen to how he described it. believe it or not, this is the least important thing that we're talking about but politically, this might be the most important thing we talk about. >> it is hilarious. it shows donald trump in his unvarnished natural state. he is exactly the same person except with an extra layer of craven cynical self-interest. it was a fascinating read. >> he also has this, they're sending judges to chicago, new york, i won new hampshire because new hampshire is a
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drug-infested den. it is coming from the southern border. i would never call -- you wouldn't in a normal conversation, just a normal gracious person talk about a place like that. >> he repeated a constant theme. he talks about where he won and why and by how much. and to be fair, in new hampshire, he did constantly talk about the drug problem. in his mind, this is what it sounds like when he doesn't have a crowd in front of him. america is a dump. that's why i won. >> and there's this amazing back and forth where basically, turnbull, america has agreed to take a certain number of refugees and trump hates it because it is bad for his brand. and trump trying to explain the policy, he just doesn't get it. in a basic way, he doesn't understand. >> turnbull is trying to help him out. he is saying, look, we can both
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come out looking good in this. you don't have to take anybody. all you have to do is say you're in the process. you could have none come in. and trump is like, it doesn't penetrate to the absolute inner center of his brain. it doesn't get that far. all he knows is it will look bad in the press. >> that his brand is the guy who turns away refugees. >> right. i'll look like a dope. >> you wrote a piece saying there's no way to survive the trump white house. i wonder if you think, if there's a relationship between degree to which this is an individual really doesn't care about policy, he doesn't have any governing principle other than the brand of the candidate is that the amount of insane back biting and fighting. >> it is the politics. the stakes are so low. and in the case of trump, there's no organizing principle. people aren't fighting for any good reason. they're just fighting. and there's no, he is just
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sowing chaos and he's he basically bored. that's the governing principle. he changes his mind constantly. people fall in and out of favor at a rapid pace. >> do you think he enjoys the drama? >> it is really interesting, priebus, when there was that whole back and forth between priebus and scaramucci, that he was sour on priebus because he didn't fight back. he was acting like a reality show producer. on the one hand, he's the president. he should want absolute quiet and a lack of distraction. and rancor coming out of white house. he wanted rancor coming out of white house which is so bizarre. >> we have reporting that it is not the transcripts that indicate similar themes. this is tow afghanistan policy. saying i call the president the two-minute man. there is one that says chose
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christopher rey to be the fbi director because he basically got bored of the search. and the last person he talked to wanted it. >> we've had presidents before who have had short attention panel ises. trump takes to it an extreme. >> he is in the twitter era. a millisecond too long to pay attention. >> how do you think it plays out? two schools of thought. people that are, opposing the president, are both happy but at the same time he is the individual who is the president of the united states. >> i think the problem is that the trump's personality is over mercurial and explosive, he won't ever be able to achieve
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this. in a moment of clarity he sees he has to impose discipline but inevitably he'll tire of kelly. and then we'll see an absolute repeat of all the craziness that happened. i think we'll see ever tighter. >> as a factual note, the president won the primary but not in the general. >> thank you very much. still ahead, president trump's director of strategic communication explains what the president meant when he called the white house a real dump. and an update from pharma bro.
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today president donald trump headed to his golf club in new jersey billing it as working vacation while the white house gets critical repairs. i know what install a high volume air conditioning system, the work may include replacing worn carpets and addressing other issues. while at his golf course, he was spending time away from washington because that white house is a real dump. the president called the story, quote, fake news and totally untrue but the reporter pushed back pointing out that trump's comment was made in front of eight or nine people and telling msnbc that white house strategic people confirmed it. >> i talked to people in the original conversation is that they recalled it in vivid
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detail. i understand why the president felt compelled to skate away from his remarks. but he said it. now, you know, i was called and we had a spicy conversation. >> spicy? >> first it was a lie and then when i laid out the facts, she said he must have been joking. i didn't say in the story what his tone of voice was. i just reported what em. >> now the president will get to spend 17 days from washington in the very club where he called the white house a real dump.
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so i just wanted to say there are three buckets of stuff. >> right. is one of them climate? >> yes. one of them is climate. one of them is sort broadly how politics are different now than they were, say, 15 years ago. citizens united. i'm interested to hear your thoughts on that. and some 2016 stuff. >> okay. >> you can decline. i know you're -- >> i'm not going to commit news. >> but i'll try and get you too. >> we're talk about climate. >> i got to feed the beast, mr. vice president. >> that conversation about feeding the beast and topics of an interview i was getting ready to do five years ago made it into his new movie, "an inconvenient sequel: truth to power." this week i got to talk with al gore again about the realities and the politics of climate change and why he's hopeful about possible solutions to the
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crisis like investment in renewable energy. >> the difference between solar electricity, unsubsidized, being more expensive than fossil fuel electricity and less expensive is not a trivial difference. it's like the difference between 33 degrees and 32 degrees. that's a difference of more than 1 degree. it's a difference between ice and water. in markets, the difference between the new alternatives being more expensive and cheaper than existing energy is the difference between markets that are frozen up and markets where there are liquid flows of investments. for the last seven years, chris, on a global basis, the investments in new generating capacity from renewables have far outstripped the investments in fossil energy. in this country last year, 75% of all new electricity generation came from solar and wind and virtually none from coal. the balance was from gas. >> that brings me to the central issue here, which is politics,
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right? the technology is going in certain ways, but the mechanisms are all -- the forcing mechanisms are all about politics. they're about global politics and domestic politics. so i want to ask about, there's a moment in the film where you talk about that 2000 election. it made me think about these terms more starkly than i have before. kyoto, the u.s. was going to be a party to kyoto, then this very close election in which of democrat wins more votes in the popular election, does not become the president of the united states, the republican gets in, pulls out of an international climate treaty. we have literally recreated that, 16 years later. and at both points, i mean, that was a big moment, a fork in the road for the country. why did it happen again, i guess is my question. >> well, i don't think very many people voted for trump on the basis of the climate issue. actually a plurality of his
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voters wanted us to stay in paris. i majority of republican voters, two-thirds of the american people. >> but that, what is key about that, right, is that that preference wasn't strong enough to override other things in the fate of this issue. >> that's right. but another big change in the last decade, in addition to the technological developments making clean energy and sustainability far more affordable, the climate-related extreme weather events have become far more serious, far more destructive, far more common. >> and evident. >> and evident. yesterday in miami, seven inches of rain in two hours. we're seeing these rain bombs now on a regular basis because the water cycle is being disrupted by 90% of the global warming heat going into the oceans and evaporating more moisture, which comes over the land and causes these extreme events. and the ice is melting and
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raising sea level and the tropical diseases are moving northward and the droughts are deeper, and you know the whole story. so people are feeling this now. and in politics and in social movements, the pattern we were talking about in technology also is sometimes evident there. i'll give you a quick example. you could take the civil rights movement, abolition, women's suffrage. in the antiapartheid movement, nelson mandela once said, it's always impossible until it's done. take the gay rights movement. if someone had told me five years ago that in 2017, gay marriage would be legal in all 50 states, accepted and honored and celebrated by two-thirds of the american people, i would have said, well, i sure hope so but that's wildly unrealistic and naive. but it happened, because the straw men were pushed aside, and people finally focused on the central choice between what's right and what's wrong.
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that's the point we're at with the climate movement. >> it's fascinating you say that, because there is a theory about the resistance we've had. climate with a culture war issue. when people talk about it and the opposition to it, the opposition is in a very cultural way, it's why you've become this bete noir for opponents of it. they're not talking about science, they're not talking about approaches to risk. it's about "those liberals" what want to tell you what to do, who are associated with a whole bunch of social baggage that you shouldn't like. i guess my question is, that defines all our politics but nowhere is it stronger and more hard to defeat because you need to motivate people to do stuff that's very difficult to do. >> there's an old saying in tennessee where i grew up that if you see a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be pretty sure it didn't get there by
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itself. when we see the united states as the only country in the world with these persistent levels of denial, among a shrinking minority but still there, you can be sure it didn't get there by itself. the carbon polluters took their playbook from the tuberculosit industry, who hired actors to play doctors and put them on camera to reassure people there were no risks to smoking cigarettes. 100 million people died in the interim before policies were finally changed. they've hired the same pr firms. it's deeply unethical. the good news is people are beginning to see through that. so this culture war you're talking about, if you put it in the larger context of what's happening to people's wages, and to their lives, we're seeing huge changes in the global
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economy and in the american economy. wages have stagnated for middle income families for decades now. and there is a lot of understandable unrest. and elites were slow to recognize it because the increasing inequality kept the elite incomes going up. meanwhile, hyperglobalization flung jobs to low-wage venues. automation started hollowing out a lot of jobs in retail, for example. and so people began to question the reliability of experts who had charted this globalization path and the policies that were supposed to improve their lives. >> you were one of them. >> absolutely. and i will own up to that. although i think in the '90s, we did a heck of a lot better job than what followed, because we respected the social contract that even as we recognized the
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inevitable changes that are driven by technology and the economy, we have an obligation to those who are hurt and damaged by it, to have the education and job training and the creation of new opportunities by working together through the instruments of self-government, where the market's not going to take care of it itself. surrendering everything to the market and abandoned the options that you have with policies to remedy the excesses and heal the damage, that's what's really caused this tremendous unrest. and so a demagogue comes in and says, we're going to return to the past, everything's going to be fine. that has an understandable appeal. it's not working, because it was never based on reality. >> all right. vice president al gore, it's great to have you. the movie is called "an inconvenient sequel: truth to power." >> thank you very much, chris. >> and that is "all in" for this evening. "on assignment with richard
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engel" starts right now from beijing, china. richard, good evening. thanks, chris. it's 9:00 a.m. here. on this side of the world, we're waking up to the news that the state department officially notified the u.n. just hours ago that the u.s. is formally leaving the paris agreement. formally because under the terms of of the agreement, the u.s. can't depart until november 4th, 2020, the day after the next elections. so this is really just another chance to tell the president's supporters in the coal belt, the ones he addressed yesterday at a rally in west virginia, that he's delivering on his campaign promise. but it's far more important than that. this is about the direction our country is heading in. there are a couple of things that are important to know about the paris agreement that may have been lost in all the rhetoric. one is that the agreement is nonbinding. the other is that until now, only two countries refused to sign it. nicaragua and syria. the u.s. has just

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